This is an article taken, as are several of my articles, from the New Testament commentary I supply. It is one of many simple common sense rebuttals of the anti-Messiah promoted by Christianity and counterfeit Messianism. In it I will directly confront, perhaps, THE most blasphemous implication resulting from the false "God in the flesh" Messiah concept.
Mt 16:21Parallels Mark 8:31, 9:31,32, 10:32-34 Luke 9:22,31,44,45, 18:31-34
So, here we see that Yeshua the Messiah most definitely DID die! Well, if he is G-d, that means G-d can die. Umm? Let's see what the Scriptures say about that.
It appears to be very clear to me. YHVH Elohim (G-d) obviously cannot die!
Let me enlighten all those who believe Yeshua (jesus) the Messiah is God.
Step outside during a moonless cloudless night and look heavenward. The stars you see represent only an infinitesimally small fraction of the marvelous works or our glorious Creator God - the very same "God" Christians and counterfeit Messianics show no hesitation to gleefully announce as having been killed by being "nailed to the cross"! In fact, the concept that "God died (paid the price) for our sins so that we don't have to" is a permanent fixture in the minds of most deceived Christians and counterfeit Messianics. Not true you say? Well, Christians and counterfeit Messianics correctly state that "Yeshua (jesus) died (paid the price) for our sins so that we don't have to." However, since they believe Yeshua (or jesus) is "God in the flesh," they actually explicitly intend to say "God died for our sins so that we don't have to." This is a sure fact of their distorted understanding of Scripture regardless of their hesitancy sometimes to admit it openly, though MANY actually do admit it openly and actually feel they are in some twisted way glorifying God. What they do not realize is they are actually glorifying Satan by implying Satan was able to kill God!
There ARE many Christians who boldly, shamelessly, fearlessly, and openly promote that God indeed CAN and DID die! Note the following quote from a reader I suspect of being a defender of Catholicism as he "responded" to the issue I raise in this article.
"...if YHWH cannot take flesh, die and resurrect Himself, He is not omnipotent. He can't really be God."
People like him are probably beyond the reach of truth. Such grotesque appeals to God's "sovereignty," "omnipotence", etc., as though they are glorifing God, are common among those who refuse to release their eternal-death grip on their blasphemous beliefs. In fact, such irreverent appeals to "omnipotence" are second only to the infamous ejection device of the "unexplainable mystery" as the primary "proof" put forth by man-God promoters in their attempts to wiggle free from the sacrilege and absence of common sense inherent in their "God in the flesh" Messiah arguments.
I can understand how the average Constantinian Christian and counterfeit Messianic, who have not pondered the implications of the false man-God Messiah concept, may innocently accept that God can die. There are millions who are sincere but have simply not fully considered the serious irreverence, inconsistency, and unscriptural absurdity regarding the issue of the alleged deity of Messiah. However, for someone who claims a high level of Scriptural knowledge (as he did) to proclaim with careful and intentional forethought that God can die is beyond my comprehension and shows how he and others like him lack even the most basic grasp of the Almighty Creator's nature. He is a classic example of those to whom the apostle Sha'ul (Paul) was referring when he stated:
The only example that approaches such a despicable thought is the teaching that God can be enticed to sin, which I discuss in a separate article. And guess what? That teaching also glorifies Satan, which I discuss in the article linked to from the previous sentence! Do you see a common "glorifying principle" here within Constantinian Christian and counterfeit Messianic doctrine? It would be wise for you to ponder this fact. The failure to grasp a basic understanding of the infinite Creator YHVH is fundamental to false doctrine and is due to the demonic hordes that rule the Beastly false Constantinian religion and their ability to breed and deceive naive people into zealously proclaiming unscriptural doctrines.
The level of irreverence shown by Christians and counterfeit Messianics towards the ONE and ONLY Creator God is nothing short of astounding! I realize that the vast majority, due to Christianity's and counterfeit, Christianized Messianic Judaism's teachings, are sincerely ignorant of the horrendous depth of error that is implicit in their belief that Messiah is God yet died! Most Christians and Messianics do not intend to blaspheme God and are sincere in their belief. However, they have NOT thought it through or really pondered how terribly wrong they are in their belief that God can - and did - die. I do NOT judge as condemned those who disagree with me, since I feel they are simply uninformed and brainwashed by Satan's deception and because we are strongly commanded to NEVER, EVER judge anyone as being eternally condemned - only God and the ones He commissions have the authority to eternally judge. Oddly, those who promote the notion God DID and CAN die (Christian and counterfeit Messianic leaders) often show no fear of God as they take upon themselves the office of eternal judge and forcefully "condemn to hell" those like myself who staunchly stand by our firm and true conviction that God has not, cannot, and will not die and that Messiah is NOT God!
Some people, such as the person I quoted previously, have the flippant audacity to dare suggested that I need to furnish more passages than I provided at the start of this discussion to prove God cannot die. The eagerness some people have to promote that God, as Messiah, can be killed is shocking. Anyone requiring more proof of God's immortal, infinite, invincible, timeless, and eternal nature is beyond hope. Were God NOT to exist or be killed the universe itself would cease to exist! Were God to die time would stop and all that is would cease to be! Yet, Christians and counterfeit Messianics are actually zealous in their promotion that God died! The very thought of such a disgusting, demonic concept enrages me and strengthens my resolve to oppose - WITH ALL THE ENERGY GOD SUPPLIES ME - the anti-God teaching that Messiah died yet is God! I am repulsed by such sickening dribble!
I will not devote much time to the evil notion that YHVH can die! It is to me - though not to Christians and counterfeit Messianics - an abomination to even think such a blasphemous thought! God cannot die; however, since Satan cannot kill God - his Creator also - he does the next best thing by promoting the lie that God can be killed. The very Romans that killed the Messiah that was resurrected by the ONLY TRUE God later created a religion in Rome (Christianity and her offspring, counterfeit Messianics Judaism) that is based upon the mystery Babylon pagan, polytheistic, and sometimes pantheistic faith. That false faith has now effectively killed God in the minds of those who are adherents to the pagan Constantinian religion began in Rome.
Anyone that can't see this is hopelessly drunk on the wine of the great Harlot of Revelation and has been brainwashed into a catatonic state by the emissaries of falsehood who present themselves as "angels of light."
Regardless of the "mystery" arguments one may put forth, the fact remains - if Yeshua is God; then God died! It doesn't matter how one defines, categorizes, or subdivides God's "essence" or "substance" or "nature" or "hypostasis" or "emanations" - the fact is Yeshua died and YHVH (God) cannot die! No amount of verbal gymnastics, regardless of how zealous and intricately worded they are, can avoid that simple fact.
I can imagine a typical discussion on this topic as follows.
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "God took upon himself the form of a man, "jesus christ", and died for the sins of the world."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "God can't die!"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "But you don't understand. It was actually God's son that died."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "First, you misunderstand the meaning of 'son of God' and need to study that issue. Don't you believe jesus is God? Don't you believe jesus is co-equal with God? Don't you believe jesus is the actual Creator?"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "Yes."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "Well, then you as still saying God, as jesus, can die. God can't die!"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "But you don't understand. It wasn't God. It was his son that died after he took on human form."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "But you say the human son is God as well as human. Sounds to me like you are promoting at least 2 separate Gods and that one of those Gods died. Sounds like you are also saying God is flesh and blood."
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "No. Well, yes. Well, jesus is "God in the flesh", but there is only one God. God the Father and God the Son are the same God. It was God the son that died."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "The term "God the son" is NOWHERE found in Scripture! You say the Son of God is actually God the son; so, you still are saying God can die. But God can't die!"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "Well, Christ is only - sort of - a part of God, and that part of God is what actually was able to die. Only part of the 'nature' of God died in Messiah - part of the ten sefirot or emanations of God. At least that's what my Kabbalistic Messianic 'rabbi' tells me. He says, 'Yeshua is the visible image and full spiritual embodiment of the Attributes (Sefirot) of the invisible Eternal (Ein Sof).'"
Those that worship the TRUE God: "So, you're saying that only part of God died, but you are also saying jesus is fully God and co-equal. ??"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "Yes."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "Understand this my friend. Not only can God NOT die, but no PART of God can die! Your Messianic 'rabbi' is grossly wrong and simply trying to rephrase the age-old "mystery" lie of the Trinity. If we accept your understanding of God then the argument isn't over whether or not God can die but becomes an argument over how MUCH of God can die. Therefore, you still say God can die. However, in reality you are saying ALL of God died because you insist jesus IS God and is co-equal to God. Even your counterfeit Messianic 'rabbi' actually teaches this since he says Messiah is the 'full spiritual embodiment of the Attributes (Sefirot) of the invisible Eternal (Ein Sof).' You need to get your facts straight and your faith even straighter, mister. No matter how you twist it, you are still promoting that God can die or partially die. You are blaspheming the Almighty Creator! God can't die!"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "Oh. well...ummm.........No, I know God can't die, but.......ummm.........well.........Oh! I'll get my pastor or Messianic rabbi to explain it to you."
Those that worship the TRUE God: "So, YOU can't explain it?"
The mystery Babylon man-God promoter of Christianity and counterfeit Messianism: "No. It's an unexplainable mystery and part of the 'mystic' nature of God." (This is where the promoters of falsehood eject from the debate using the "mystery" or "Kabbalah mysticism" theological ejection device.)
Those that worship the TRUE God: "Well, I can easily explain my opinion without resorting to the ejection button of the 'mystery' or distorted Messianic 'Kabbalah' defense.
I tell you what. When you decide to take your brain back from your pastor or 'rabbi' and think for yourself using the common sense you've abandoned, come back and we'll talk. But you will discover that not even your pastor or self anointed 'rabbi' can explain it. Regardless of how you try to escape it, you are clearly teaching that God can die. Wake up! GOD CAN'T DIE!"
To those that promote the blasphemous concept YHVH can die I say, "Depart from me ye that "think" iniquity!" And guess what? If you accept the lie of the Trinity or ANY notion that Messiah is God; then, YOU ARE EXPLICITLY PROMOTING THAT GOD CAN BE KILLED!!
The time is approaching for true monotheistic followers of Yeshua the Messiah to "wipe the dust from your feet" and stop trying to convince those who stubbornly cling to evil traditions. The time for entertaining profane "mysteries" that try to explain how a perfectly Holy and eternal God can die or be enticed to sin (Matt. 4:1-10) is rapidly approaching an end.